In this episode of Your Last Meal, comedian W. Kamau Bell shares his experiences with macaroni and cheese, its cultural significance, and his memorable trip to Kenya with Anthony Bourdain. The discussion also delves into the history of macaroni and cheese in America, highlighting the contributions of James Hemings, Thomas Jefferson's enslaved chef, and the evolution of this beloved dish.
In this episode of Your Last Meal, host Rachel Bell welcomes stand-up comedian, director, and producer W. Kamau Bell. Known for his Emmy-winning CNN docuseries United Shades of America and his Peabody Award-winning work on We Need to Talk About Cosby, Bell shares his love for food, particularly macaroni and cheese, and reflects on his unique culinary experiences.
W. Kamau Bell famously wore a t-shirt that read, "Not all mac and cheese is created equal." He explains that this statement resonates deeply within the Black community, where macaroni and cheese is often a staple at gatherings. Bell emphasizes that the dish varies significantly from household to household, with each family having its own recipe and secret ingredients.
He notes that while many people may think of boxed mac and cheese as the standard, true macaroni and cheese is a labor of love, often made with multiple cheeses and baked to perfection. Bell's shirt serves as a subtle political statement about the diversity of Black culinary traditions and the importance of recognizing that not all Black people share the same tastes or experiences.
Bell recounts his only trip to Africa, which was to Kenya with the late Anthony Bourdain for an episode of Parts Unknown. He describes how the opportunity arose when CNN was looking to create new programming, and Bourdain, who had already made a name for himself, became a mentor figure for Bell.
During their 11 days in Kenya, Bell and Bourdain bonded over discussions about politics, family, and their shared love for stand-up comedy. Bell reflects on a poignant moment when he expressed to Bourdain how much he admired him, a conversation that took on new meaning after Bourdain's tragic passing. Bell emphasizes the importance of reaching out to people and cherishing connections, as life is unpredictable.
Bell shares his experiences with traditional Kenyan cuisine, including goat stew and cow's blood, which were presented to him in ways that challenged his comfort zone. He humorously describes the goat head stew, where diners eat from a communal pile of goat parts, and the ritual of drinking cow's blood, which was more about bonding than nourishment.
These experiences highlight the cultural significance of food in different communities and the ways in which culinary traditions can foster connections among people.
The conversation shifts to the history of macaroni and cheese in America, led by food historian Michael W. Twitty and Gail Jessup White, a descendant of Thomas Jefferson and the enslaved community at Monticello. They discuss James Hemings, Jefferson's enslaved chef, who played a crucial role in introducing macaroni pie to America after learning the recipe in France.
Contrary to popular belief, neither Thomas Jefferson nor James Hemings invented macaroni and cheese. Instead, Hemings brought the dish back to Monticello, where it became a favorite among the elite. The discussion emphasizes the need to recognize the contributions of enslaved individuals to American culinary history, as their stories have often been overlooked.
Bell reflects on his own relationship with macaroni and cheese, noting that he did not appreciate the homemade versions until later in life, having grown up on boxed varieties. He shares that cooking has become a way for him to connect with his family, especially as he teaches his children how to make their own versions of the dish.
Gail Jessup White also shares her family's macaroni and cheese recipe, which connects her to her ancestors and highlights the love and care that goes into preparing this beloved dish.
As the episode wraps up, Bell emphasizes that macaroni and cheese is more than just a comfort food; it represents a labor of love within families. Each recipe carries the history and traditions of those who came before, making it a significant part of cultural identity.
In his closing thoughts, Bell expresses a desire for his last meal to be a full dim sum experience, showcasing his love for diverse culinary traditions and the joy of sharing food with others.
This episode of Your Last Meal not only celebrates the deliciousness of macaroni and cheese but also delves into the rich history and personal stories that make food such an integral part of our lives.
